Blizzard have recently confirmed in Blizzcon 2010 that
“all key dungeon quest givers will now be located just inside the dungeon entrance. You will no longer have to beg your party to share their quests with you, or make your way to a dungeon only to find you haven’t completed a mandatory quest chain. Cataclysm dungeon maps currently show the dungeon layout and locations of bosses, 4.1 will allow players to find a host of new information for each boss, including 3D boss portraits, the lore behind the encounter, a full loot list, and a breakdown of boss abilities (by phase, if applicable).”
This is great news for players to make things easier, but providing the mandatory quest chain and also maps was the core content of our Dungeon Leveling Guide, and this leaves us with an uncertain future for our Dungeon guide. We did know about the quest givers inside dungeons earlier on, but it wasn’t clear whether Blizzard would add additional quest chains for dungeons or not and it has only been confirmed recently at Blizzcon that this is the new permanent game design.
Currently in the Beta the Outland and Northrend dungeons quests are still the same as the current game on live, however it could change later to be the same as the rest of Cataclysm dungeons. The level 1-60 dungeons have all changed which is what we expected but this is also means that there won’t be a need for a Dungeon guide for 1-60 because no quest chains are required.
However we still have plans to update the Dungeon Guides for Cataclysm with as much content as we can add, such as Video guides in HD and in-game walkthrough, boss strategies with maps & screenshots, and these updates will be free to our current Dungeon Guide owners but it won’t be available for sometime after Cataclysm is released by Blizzard.
The reason we are closing sales of the Dungeon Guides now is because we don’t want people purchasing our dungeon guide only for it to become obsolete a week after their purchase, we will be selling the guide again once our updates are complete.
-Dugi
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Sorry I had comments off by accident earlier.
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Will be lookingforward to your updated guide.
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Thank You for the Info… This is what makes you ( Dugi ) the class act that you are.. Keep up the GREAT job.
I’ll be looking for the update..
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thanks for the info Dugi.. keep up alll the hard work mate . look foward to all your new guides
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thank you GREAT MAN for the person you are
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Thanks for the info, and keep up the good work!
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this is very disappointing as this was the main reason why i even purchased the guide to begin with… because i had no knowledge of how many or the location of the quests for each of the dungeons…
has there even been any consideration about refunding the purchase price back to the customer????
because with the quest givers at the front entrance i literally have no reason to own this particular guide anymore…
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uh Brandon,
you said: “because i had no knowledge of how many or the location of the quests for each of the dungeons…”
son, we are all in the same boat,, and I for won’t blame Dugi for changes out of his control
He even took the step of taking his product off the market when he found out out about it, how many others can you say that about ?
man up son, and quit whinning like a wounded troll
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i understand your position and how you feel… however, when we all bought the guide it was from the understanding that this would basically be the new fastest way to level and now that Blizzard has made this easier and faster than ever i feel like there is a certain responsibility of the retail market to give back to the customer when they are unsatisfied…
how would you like to go into best buy and try to return something only to have them tell you that you can’t because they no longer carry it… even if you were still inside the companies return period.
i don’t feel like i’m asking too much…
and in fact i’m basically trying to put money back in your pocket that you’ve waisted… so forgive me if i seem harsh but i would have expected gratitude instead of flaming … far be it from me to try to do something nice for strangers….
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We clearly state with our 60 days guarantee that you are entitled to full refund if you are unhappy for whatever reason, simply contact webmaster at ultimatewowguide.com for a refund instruction.
This is not the end of the Dungeon Guide and we will update it for Cataclysm.
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I think you should read into this story…there is a release coming up of Cataclysm and this is most likely why the game is not being sold until further notice.
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I dont think there’s a problem with this. “We” wanted to have some control in our “uncertain” future, and you provided that. The future is here, and there are various changes, and you have clarified that. As “Terry” said above, this is what makes (Dugi), we ask, you provide, then you make sure we know whatz correct or not. “We” will still be here, there probably be tons of changes, etc., etc., but at least we know, we heard it from you first.
Over and above all . “Thank you”.
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Many Thanks Dugi for bringing up this info, keep up the good work mate.
When you update the Cata dungeon guide, are those who already purchased the original dungeon guide going to get a free cata guide update m8?
I think this is another example of Blizz “dumbing down” WoW to make things easier in-game to help compete with some of its competition! (but i think the end result will be they will lose interest in the game!)
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Thanks Dugi for this info,
I have just purchased the alli-leveling and A-H achiv.etc… and was about to buy the dungeon guide as well.
I will wait til upgraded version now.
Thanks for an absolutely splendid work!
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Hmm….. well that kind of stinks….. This is the reason I spent $157 on this and the achievement guide…… now they want to do this? …… hmmm…… the dungeon guide now seems like I wasted my money…….
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I’m not impressed with the dumbing down of the game either. I’m loosing intrest all ready. Because of the new talent tree I believe the toons lost a lot of thier individuality. Like what was said earlier, I am disappointed about buying the dungeon guide also but I guess the game is going to change. I can’t blame Dugi for that. As far as playing anymore myself, The game is getting too easy for me already! I like the challange.
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Though I can understand that people may feel that the game is being dumb down it’s actually not changing much for higher lvl players. They’re making the game more “noob” friendly because WoW is a very unfriendly game for low lvl new players, unless you’re going into the game with a veteran player who can show you the ropes. As for the talent tree providing individuality, there hasn’t been individuality in a long time. Most people just look up online the most popular talent build and copy that.
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I agree with the dumbing down comment. When I first played WOW you had to get to 40 before you got a mount, there was a quest for the paladin mount what while a total pita got you a sweet mount. You had to work for stuff and I use to have a feeling of accomplishment from the game. And when I first started playing they were already dumbing it down. I not one for raids or repeating dailies time again. I enjoy lvling and doing dungeons and while I appreciate the dungeon group finder I’ve also found out there are WAY too many prima donas on WOW which has also lessened the pleasure of the game. I’ll get Cat when comes out, but I’m stuck wondering if it isn’t becoming too much of a cake walk. Yea, those quests chains were a pain but hey, they also made it so, once again I felt like I had done something. Getting the hammer for Zul, or the key quest. Now it will be like you step through the door and a guy/gal hands you a packet, big whoop. Hell, it’s to the point where I’m thinking why bother to play. Not into PVP so really what’s left for folks like me?
As for Dugi, you’re A1 in my book. Keep up the good work.
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Dugi,
I leveled up my shaman healer using your Dungeon guide. It allowed me to see inside a bunch of instances I had missed previously.
One suggestion would be to change this to a Lore guide. What I mean is there is a lot of background information on what is going on in an instance and why that gets missed by the casual player or those being “helped” by others. I note any number of lead in quests explain the background lore.
Anyways, thought that might be something.
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Perhaps you could give those of us that already purchased the Dungeon Guide with the opportunity to either keep it or exchange it for the Professions Guide!
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Maybe you could give us the option of picking another one of your great guides if all you add to the guide is video guides that we could easily get on youtube. Even if it is only 1-60 leveling guide it would seem fair to me atleast because it really wasn’t in your hands.
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The update is something that we intend to sell as a product, it won’t be something that you can get for free. We have more ideas, but would prefer not to disclose everything right now.
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Thank you for the info, i just bought your dungeon guide this weekend, well atleast i can use it till cata goes live and hopefully ill find use for the updated guide once its finished.
Btw. great guide so far
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On first reading this my first reaction was I’VE BEEN CONNED INTO BUYING Dungeon & Achievement guide, and was going to ask for re-fund on Achievement guide, as its still within 60days.
But on speaking with fellow guild members(one who is editor of P C Gamer magazine) I change my opinion, even they do not no whats going on with Cataclysm,
As Ive used both guides and achieved what your guides says will do I am keeping them.
Dugi I hope when this mess is sorted you support your Clients and supporters especially those who purchased these guides
Colin
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Dugi,
I believe that I, and everyone else, has received what we paid for. I bought the guide to help me level and to make sense of some of the confusing things Blizz does. I thank you for your hard work and am happy with my purchase (I have everything you offer). Thanks for being upfront to new customers, it shows integrity and class. Keep up the good work
John
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This is an unfortunate development for Dugi. I commend him for being mindful of his customers’ perspectives and taking the guide off the market until all is revealed.
Anyone who feels put upon by this development should realize they can get more than their money’s worth by using Dugi’s guide until the game mechanics change.
Rob
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I hope they only do this for Cata dungeons. As for being dumded down I agree. This is a noob friendly game compared to a lot of other MMO’s out there.I started playing back before BC came out and I was blowing thru everything cause questing was so easy. Now they are making it even easier with quest givers inside the entrance to dungeons. Yea sometimes had to find the quest or do a chain, but it was still pretty easy. The best thing they did so far was the dungeon selector. Used to have to wait an hour or 2 to get a group together or pay someone to run me thru.
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Hi Dugi,
I’ve been playing WoW since.. umm.. before any new worlds were opened (2002). I love your guides. For those of you who just recently purchased any of Dugi’s guides use them now and enjoy them. You will be glad you did. They are more than worth the money you paid for them, trust me. Without them many of us would have not enjoyed playing as much, seeing as much content and reaped huge benefits.
Dugi, I cannot thank you enough for all you have done. I’m sure that there will be more for you to do for us when Cat comes out and I do look forward to it.
Hugs and warm thoughts to all of you!!
Topi
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Dugi, I am happy with your guides. Game changes can’t be blamed on you. Looking forward to updates.
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at first I was outraged when reading the post…thinking…WHAT?!!! So I basically lost the money I spent to buy the guide to render not useful not even a year after purchase? Then towards the end….I smiled. Thanks…looking for your updates and run throughs. That will be great.
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Thanks for all the hard work guys.
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dugi…i just started reading the information you have been sending me for almost two months now…i am amazed at how its helped make the game easier to undersatand for me. I was going to buy the new guide…and once the new one with the revisions comes out i will try to purchase it. keep up the good work, you really do help all the newbees get the most out of the game…let me know when the new one comes out…wow name gothicanna
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I can honestly say that I’m very happy with all the guides that I have gotten here. I saw the headlines here and my first thought was…ok who’s screwing with Dugi this time =D Well, apparently its Blizz and theres no way to change that but I still use my dungeon guide, I am currently working on a 71 rogue and a 56 warlock (hopefully #7 and 8 lvl 80 before Cat) There’s still plenty of game left before Cat but I look forward to any new updates you have for us. You have been amazing!!
As for dumbing the game down, I wouldnt object to making the game a little harder…then maybe we can get rid of the elitists that will kick my raf friend out of a lvl 15 dungeon for saying, “sorry, I’m new to the game.”
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Well, I was going to buy this but just heard that it’s worthless. WELL I FOUND OUT IT”S NOT! even though cata has 2 months before it starts, this guide is good. All my friends use it. The 2months of this guide is worth it. Put it back on the market but leave a note.
-Wow name Someonedeath on dawnbringer
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Dugi should give everyone something fun to everyone that boght the guide
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I can attest to how well the dungeon guide works if you understand every step and stick to it, and maybe read ahead a little. I got my first 5 80′s ever from it, and I loved having done that it under a month (I had a lot of time to kill, and I got twink gear for most of my leveling toons after my first 80 pali) and all the other features (yeah, I bought everything in the end =P) were amazing, I’ve made amounts of gold that would make my friends heads spin if they ever found out, lol, but I do think the whole system is getting a little too easy after patch 4, it’s clever, but not entirely welcome to veterans.
But I do think (don’t want to sound greedy) that there should be some manner of trade off to those who bought the dungeon guide and won’t be able to use it until the new version comes out. Or, alternatively, grant them at least a free update to the new guide when you guys do do your amazing thing and get the next set up ready, I mean, it only seems fair, ya know?
Peace
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Hey Dugi and command posters,
I really disepointed that i lost my money now where i spare 3 months for (yes, im 15) but you also have done youre work and make this guide. There is no any reason to give the money back cuz you work very hard for it and if you give all the money back you have done everything for nothing. I really like it that you’re gonna do a update for cataclysm en it’s sounds great. And I do got a tip for you that you maybe can use: You can just continue sell the guide but set it with red and bold text that its gonna get updated a other way and set the things with it.
After all, thanks for the great guides and you’re a fair person
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When the patch 4.1 will be releases?
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I bought into Dugi’s guide(s) early on. Initially I was slightly disappointed, but as time passed and he kept improving his product that initial disappointment turned into something more like profound gratitude. He has done excellent work since he started over 3+ yrs ago. (I don’t really know exactly when he first put his guide on the market, but I got in very close to the beginning). I have since purchased every guide he has put out. I have used the dungeon guide and I am quite happy with it. It is still quite useful and will be up until Dec 7 this year. Anyone using the dungeon guide and playing 2-3 hours 5 days a week will easily get 1 or 2 level 80s (starting from lvl 1!) out of it, as long as they don’t allow themselves to get distracted.
Anyone that just barely purchased the guide can take advantage of Dugi’s 60 day guarantee. I for one wouldn’t want to get my money back for it, because it’s still far less than the cost of 2 power leveled to 80 characters you might purchase from the sites that say they’ll do the leveling for you, and far less risky as well. The dungeon guide(s) are just one of the guides Dugi offers and all of the others retain their full value to a WoW player. I understand some might want their money back, but I’m more intrigued by what Dugi might do to make the dungeon guide retain it’s value after the changes — even if that means I’ll have to wait a while.
And to Dugi – thanks for a job well done and for maintaining an attitude of both dignity and integrity through past difficulties you (and perhaps “we” as well) have encountered with putting and keeping your guide(s) on the market for us.
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thx for info dugi keep the good work
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